Why Don't Mini Splits Use a Liquid Line Filter Dryer? - Ask the Expert Episode 257

Today's question comes from Albert. "Hey Dan, why do mini splits don't require a liquid line filter drier or do you add one on installation?" We're not familiar with any mini-split brand that requires a liquid line filter drier. We have not heard of them being added after installation. As to why they don't, we don't know. You will just have to ask the manufacturers. Thing is, you're not exactly missing out on anything. You should just install the mini split in your home and enjoy it!
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John C
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There is no traditional liquid line on a mini split. The smaller diameter line that people think is the "liquid line" is actually AFTER the expansion valve, as the expansion valve is inside the mini split outdoor unit - which is much different than how a traditional split-AC system works. If you opened up a mini split outdoor unit, some manufacturers have a small dryer of some sort on the actual liquid line, which is going to be a very short line before the expansion valve.
Mike Mike
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Hello my question is this I purchase this mini split system now it's about second year I see in side unit the grill is so dirty we clean the filter everything but inside coil is dirty how to clean safely because it is in the bedroom if if I use hose is going to mess my bedroom set tell me how to clean nicely thank you.
Dan Danowski
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There are mini-split cleaning kits that you can buy that help solve this problem. Basically you put a plastic cover around and under the air handler. That cover had a tube that runs into a 5 gallon bucket. This way the air handler coil can be cleaned without getting mess all over your house.
Michael Dowd
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Love the Humor, he's really funny. The videos are very informative. Thank you for showing them. Mike from Brooklyn NY
alk
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To John C. I really appreciate your comment that a mini split doesn't have a traditional liquid line and the expansion valve is inside the outdoor unit. Even though my new mini split is cooling nicely I have been worried that the "liquid line" at the outdoor unit is running quite cool instead of warm/hot. Hopefully I now understand why this would be the case.
Francois
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I installed a d.i.y mini split heatpump about a month ago. I'm an idiot, so I tried to change the location of the outdoor unit 2 days ago. I shut off the system and waited about 15 minutes before moving it. Of course refrigerant line broke. Refrigerant leaked out and made a cloud on my patio and gave me a frost bite. I haven't noticed any oil where it leaked out. And I put the plastic caps on the outside unit lines about 5 minutes after the leak stopped. It will be a while before I get the new line and get it filled. So here are my worries. 1: Will unit be missing oil ? Apparently I can't check it on mini splits. 2: Will moisture have changed that oil to acid if I put the plastic caps back on caps back on 5 minutes later but shut off the valves 2 days later. The plastic caps don't have gaskets but my guess is the seal enought to have prevented air circulation. Anything else I should know ?? Thanks for your help in correcting my dumb decisions. Hope I didn't screw up a new 2000$ machine.
Gremlin
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Very likely you got this fixed already, but for those that stumble upon this at some point in the future... 1) Will it be missing oil? - Yes; but since the system was off, the amount would be so miniscule the system won't even notice. Unless - there was an oil streak(s) where the break occurred and you could visibly see it; additionally - if there was a significant film of oil all over your patio (as you stated there was a cloud of vapor around the patio which is likely just condensation from the refrigerant flashing at that point). 2) There are multiple dynamics of physics at play with your scenario that won't necessarily relate to all situations. 4 of the biggest determinations will be the temperature/activity of the oil, size of the hole/crack in the line, refrigerant vapor pressure within the system, and permeability of the material used to seal the line/break location. Time becomes irrelevant until the refrigerant pressures and atmospheric pressures reach the point of equilibrium. Ideally, you want to seal the system with something as solid as possible, with as little permeability as possible, as quickly as possible when safe to do so; thick duct tape will work in a pinch but not ideal. Depending on the break location, there could still be active liquid refrigerant being expelled through the hole/crack - do not attempt to seal it if there is visible liquid being expelled - recipe for severe frost bite/burn. Take note that some refrigerants are quite flammable as well when at their stoichiometric ratios with atmospheric air. For a residential system, it is best to just remove all people and pets from the immediate area and remain outdoors until the refrigerant vapors have time to dissipate fully in case there is an ignition event and risk of overpressure is high. Once you can safely reach the break and the service valves, seal the break as best as you can - taking care to not introduce foreign materials into the lines; and fully shut the service valves. The oil and refrigerant do not mix, they "foam" and froth to a degree, and that oil-bearing vapor is carried away, but should return back to the accumulator when the system is properly installed. Once a system is shutdown, the refrigerant will equalize as necessary, and the oil will fall out of suspension from the vapor. Any moisture that is introduced after the break occurs, and prior to being sealed, should not be damaging, so long proper techniques are followed to removed the non-condensable gasses; water/moisture will boil off as the vacuum is pulled and held. Now - if the system was fully running when this happened and no one shuts it down for an extended period of time, then it will very likely suck in atmospheric air/moisture and mix it into the oil; which over time and with heat applied, will turn it acidic. Your steps from there will be varied, but the unit will obviously need the broken location repaired before being turned back on. In general, any competent tech will purge the system with dry nitrogen to assess for any additional breaks/leaks and to assist with proper brazing of the repair joint(s). If all of that checks out then they will pull and hold a vacuum, and then charge the system by manufacture recommendations if the vacuum stats signify everything is good to go.
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